Can You Clear Over Single Stage Paint

Hi all,

I am in the center of painting my first petrol tank for a custom mini chopper I am building with a friend in piece of work.

Progress on the bike so far

The first attempt at painting the tank didn't go to well with the paint reacting to the articulate coat, so it has been sanded down ready for another endeavour.

The tank had been primed, and had a couple of coats of white pigment a few months ago. Last week a blackness base of operations coat was applied so a flame pattern masked out, the beginning color on top of the black was red so orangish on top of that. The blackness had effectually a twenty-four hours to dry out but the red and orange where sprayed within a few hours of each other. Afterward a mean solar day of curing I wanted to articulate coat the tank to cover the ridge between the base coat and the pattern, straight away the orange began to scissure where information technology blended with the scarlet and looked similar the bottom of a dry out lake :mad:

All the paint used was unmarried stage paint, so my question is can you articulate coat over single stage paint?

Any communication would be greatly appreciated

Pic before clear coat:

You can only in this example BC/CC would exist the better choice, im pretty sure the alloy areas in the flame licks didnt melt together potentially causing your trouble. Personally, i dont think single stage is the rite medium here, BC/CC is the way to get. Since the tank is pocket-size i would strip to metal and start fresh with appropriate primers etc. I think you'll like the results much better.

HTH

Paul

That's what I was thinking, I have already stripped near of the tank back to bare metallic. The front has only had a good rub down, not to metallic equally has been built upwards with filler and sanded after the tank was made.

Actually a lot of showcar guys paint clear over a single-stage paint, it lays flatter and shows improve gloss I guess. However, it must exist the same family (type) of pigment. Y'all don't desire to lay a Urethane clear over Acrylic Enamel or something, simply I have seen some Jobbers recommend doing just that...
Is information technology really a Urethane Unmarried Phase?? If so, have at information technology!

I clear over single stage quite a fleck when I'm striping a car. I'll usually shoot the stripe color in single phase then sand that color and mask off my stripe and shoot the rest of the car in bc/cc, remove the stripe mask and spray the entire vehicle with clear.

I would unremarkably similar to see nigh classic vehicles in single stage because of the extra gloss that clear can give some colors. When you utilise clear it tin make the car look a petty non-stock.

Just sprayed a sample yesterday to eliminate the possibility of something being wrong with the way the tank was prepped, it turned out the same way. The red is fine but the orange ends upwardly looking like the picture below:

The clear glaze is acrylic and I know the red is acrylic, but the orange was mixed by the shop I bought everything from, could the orange exist urethane?

The mix for the orange was two parts paint to ane part hardener, plus 1 10th thinner, I told the monkey behind the counter that I would be clearing over the orange and he seemed ok with that. Anyway Im going to take the sample downwardly there tommorrow for them to await at.

Finally got the tank finished afterward lots of hard work, had to rub information technology down a couple of times to become the pigment to accept. Seems similar the orginal single stage I was given was non compatable with the two stage bc/cc. Not perfect only for my get-go tank I am made upwardly with it. Thanks for the comments and suggest, I keep reading your posts for further tips, still got the frame and rear fender to pigment.

Subsequently 4 Coats of clear and color sanded:

Finished chore with 2 more coats of articulate after sanding:

Looks pretty good. Are y'all going to strugle with the rest, or just get BC/CC next fourth dimension? Don't know why someone would use SS as a base coat.

Cheers, All the paint is now BC/CC, so hopefully no strugling for a good end. The simply reason I had SS was because I took a spray tin can of the color I wanted to the paint store and asked for the same color in BC, only the guy gave me the exact same matter as the can, which was SS.

If it is anything like Ane Shot striping enamel then you have to add together hardner to the pigment if you lot want to clear it. some guys add the aforementioned hardner that they will employ for the articulate to make information technology work together. Simply what i have heard.

Quote Originally Posted by zingercustoms

If information technology is anything like I Shot striping enamel and so you have to add hardner to the pigment if you want to clear it. some guys add the aforementioned hardner that they volition use for the clear to make information technology piece of work together. Just what i have heard.

If the orange is enamel you lot could have problems depending on the characteristics of the color or the articulate. Since a bad reaction is shown on the test panel y'all may desire to go another clear to test only if you still have problems you lot may demand to find some other color and re-paint the tank.
You could besides exist having problems if you're trying to clear coat an enamel too soon after it's application. Go along it warm for a couple days before you lot apply clear.

Thanks for the help, I took the orginal orangish SS back to the shop and they swapped information technology for a BC of a similar color. So the problem has gone away, while painting I kept trying the paints on a test sheet before using them on the tank.

Fender has at present been painted forth with another bits and pieces. Hopefully i'll be ready to put everything together side by side calendar week. Simply need to finish welding and pigment the frame also re-paint the engine.

Full set of pics: http://s110.photobucket.com/albums/n...per/?commencement=all

Is information technology possible you are confusing single part and single stage? It sounds like your offset endeavor was with lacquer or enamel from a spray can. Is that right? Either of them would exist described as single part paint, not to be confused with single stage which is paint that is mixed with a hardener and and so applied.

Bob K